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		<title>By: Ista Zahn</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-18333</link>
		<dc:creator>Ista Zahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi--Autofile works pretty much as I expected in Bibdesk. Under preferences, set the rules for renaming files, then just drag and drop. Enter the reference first, otherwise BibDesk won&#039;t know what to name your file. If you have the reference editor window open you can click on the &quot;view file&quot; icon in the tool bar, which gives some nice options like &quot;link to recent download&quot; and &quot;link to recently opened files&quot;. As far as I can tell, BibDesk links files based on the Autofile Preferences, not the citekeys. 

For what its worth, I switched back to Sente after several weeks with BibDesk. Its a great program, but Sente beats it hands down when it comes to searching for references and automatically downloading PDF&#039;s. While BibDesk can handle z39.50 searches (in addition to PubMed), Sente correctly maps PsychINFO records to the proper fields. And the real killer feature is that Sente can save searches, and alert you when new articles become available. I&#039;m not trying sell you on anything, just stating what works best for me.  Sente&#039;s BibDesk support is not all it could be, but it works for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8211;Autofile works pretty much as I expected in Bibdesk. Under preferences, set the rules for renaming files, then just drag and drop. Enter the reference first, otherwise BibDesk won&#8217;t know what to name your file. If you have the reference editor window open you can click on the &#8220;view file&#8221; icon in the tool bar, which gives some nice options like &#8220;link to recent download&#8221; and &#8220;link to recently opened files&#8221;. As far as I can tell, BibDesk links files based on the Autofile Preferences, not the citekeys. </p>
<p>For what its worth, I switched back to Sente after several weeks with BibDesk. Its a great program, but Sente beats it hands down when it comes to searching for references and automatically downloading PDF&#8217;s. While BibDesk can handle z39.50 searches (in addition to PubMed), Sente correctly maps PsychINFO records to the proper fields. And the real killer feature is that Sente can save searches, and alert you when new articles become available. I&#8217;m not trying sell you on anything, just stating what works best for me.  Sente&#8217;s BibDesk support is not all it could be, but it works for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-18176</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question:
Though I used the autofile feature to file my references/papers, what is the procedure to link the file??
Bibdesk mentions that you can drag the pdf to the citation for linking files/pdfs.

For eg: this is an ideal workflow:
1. download files and citation from IEEE/ACM(whichever).
2. save it in Bibdesk.
3. Bibdesk links all the files in the prescribed folder to the references based on their citekeys.
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I have been trying to do this for a while and I have been unsuccessful. Any suggestions??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question:<br />
Though I used the autofile feature to file my references/papers, what is the procedure to link the file??<br />
Bibdesk mentions that you can drag the pdf to the citation for linking files/pdfs.</p>
<p>For eg: this is an ideal workflow:<br />
1. download files and citation from IEEE/ACM(whichever).<br />
2. save it in Bibdesk.<br />
3. Bibdesk links all the files in the prescribed folder to the references based on their citekeys.<br />
&#8212;-<br />
I have been trying to do this for a while and I have been unsuccessful. Any suggestions??</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Russell</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-14826</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ista,

If anything, I&#039;d suggest a programmatic solution for this if possible.  Any chance you could look at the datafile(s) that Sente creates/maintains and parse out the local filenames pointing to your existing PDFs?

If so - you could probably get them into your BibDesk file without handling each one one-by-one.

This looks like the most immediately helpful page... http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=283&amp;page=0

Perhaps this?
http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/index.cgi?page=sente&amp;subPage=cite

-- from the Sente site --

Exporting references
If you need to insert a list of references into any other software, Sente lets you specify a format and then simply drag and drop any number of references into any application that accepts RTF or plain text data. For example, to tell colleagues about some interesting new papers that just appeared in one of your standing Sente searches, you can simply drag them into a mail message and they will be inserted in whatever format you have selected. Do you want to include abstracts and your own notes? Or do you want to send BibTeX entries? No problem, just pick the right format and drop the references wherever you want.

Bibliography format editor
Sente comes with several of the most commonly used bibliography formats installed. But what if you need something else? Sente also includes an easy-to-use format editor where you can make a custom format to suit your needs. And it is easy to copy a supplied format and modify it to serve some other purpose.

You can also use the format editor to create special-purpose formats like BibTeX, Refer, HTML, XML, or even a tab-delimited export format. This lets you use Sente data in other applications or custom scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ista,</p>
<p>If anything, I&#8217;d suggest a programmatic solution for this if possible.  Any chance you could look at the datafile(s) that Sente creates/maintains and parse out the local filenames pointing to your existing PDFs?</p>
<p>If so &#8211; you could probably get them into your BibDesk file without handling each one one-by-one.</p>
<p>This looks like the most immediately helpful page&#8230; <a href="http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&#038;Number=283&#038;page=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&#038;Number=283&#038;page=0</a></p>
<p>Perhaps this?<br />
<a href="http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/index.cgi?page=sente&#038;subPage=cite" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdstreetsoftware.com/index.cgi?page=sente&#038;subPage=cite</a></p>
<p>&#8211; from the Sente site &#8211;</p>
<p>Exporting references<br />
If you need to insert a list of references into any other software, Sente lets you specify a format and then simply drag and drop any number of references into any application that accepts RTF or plain text data. For example, to tell colleagues about some interesting new papers that just appeared in one of your standing Sente searches, you can simply drag them into a mail message and they will be inserted in whatever format you have selected. Do you want to include abstracts and your own notes? Or do you want to send BibTeX entries? No problem, just pick the right format and drop the references wherever you want.</p>
<p>Bibliography format editor<br />
Sente comes with several of the most commonly used bibliography formats installed. But what if you need something else? Sente also includes an easy-to-use format editor where you can make a custom format to suit your needs. And it is easy to copy a supplied format and modify it to serve some other purpose.</p>
<p>You can also use the format editor to create special-purpose formats like BibTeX, Refer, HTML, XML, or even a tab-delimited export format. This lets you use Sente data in other applications or custom scripts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ista Zahn</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-14815</link>
		<dc:creator>Ista Zahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m deciding which program to use to manage my pdf/reference collection. I&#039;ve been using Sente, a nice bibliography manager from third street software for some time now, but it has some annoying bugs, and is not open source. I&#039;ve been checking out Papers as well (nice, but also not open source). BibDesk seems like an attractive option--the main problem I&#039;m having is getting all of the PDF&#039;s I already have on my hard drive linked up with the corresponding BibDesk reference. I would hate to have to drag-and-drop 1122 pdf&#039;s . . . Any one have experience with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m deciding which program to use to manage my pdf/reference collection. I&#8217;ve been using Sente, a nice bibliography manager from third street software for some time now, but it has some annoying bugs, and is not open source. I&#8217;ve been checking out Papers as well (nice, but also not open source). BibDesk seems like an attractive option&#8211;the main problem I&#8217;m having is getting all of the PDF&#8217;s I already have on my hard drive linked up with the corresponding BibDesk reference. I would hate to have to drag-and-drop 1122 pdf&#8217;s . . . Any one have experience with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Russell</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-9541</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you found it helpful!

I&#039;d think your university would suggest the particular style itself - no?

I haven&#039;t looked into style file selection yet myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you found it helpful!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think your university would suggest the particular style itself &#8211; no?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked into style file selection yet myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Norberto Moreno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norberto Moreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I designed my dissertation folder exactly as you suggested with. Thank you very much. Time to write the dissertation. By the way, any suggestion as to a good .sty file for the dissertation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I designed my dissertation folder exactly as you suggested with. Thank you very much. Time to write the dissertation. By the way, any suggestion as to a good .sty file for the dissertation?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Russell</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-9274</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Damien, that&#039;s exactly what&#039;s going on there.

This is it - http://scplugin.tigris.org/

I&#039;ve found it significantly less powerful than the command line, but occasionally, it&#039;s helpful to &#039;see&#039; what&#039;s going on.  Once you trust it.

The biggest issue for a while with the plugin was that the icons were &#039;out of date&#039;.  A significant problem for something like svn integration.  I see it has been updated in late January 07.  It could very well be much better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Damien, that&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s going on there.</p>
<p>This is it &#8211; <a href="http://scplugin.tigris.org/" rel="nofollow">http://scplugin.tigris.org/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found it significantly less powerful than the command line, but occasionally, it&#8217;s helpful to &#8217;see&#8217; what&#8217;s going on.  Once you trust it.</p>
<p>The biggest issue for a while with the plugin was that the icons were &#8216;out of date&#8217;.  A significant problem for something like svn integration.  I see it has been updated in late January 07.  It could very well be much better now.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-9270</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the green check logos on the icons in the last screenshot ? some kind of subversion + finder integration ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the green check logos on the icons in the last screenshot ? some kind of subversion + finder integration ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-8435</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the BibDesk newbie: here&#039;s how to get that .bib file where you want it.  In the BibDesk menu, select File --&gt; Save As.  Name the file as you see fit and save it to your desired location.  Then to load this file each time BibDesk starts, do this: In BibDesk preferences, choose the General panel; in the &quot;Application Launch&quot; area, choose &quot;Open File...&quot; and have it open the file you just saved.

These directions are for BibDesk 1.3.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the BibDesk newbie: here&#8217;s how to get that .bib file where you want it.  In the BibDesk menu, select File &#8211;&gt; Save As.  Name the file as you see fit and save it to your desired location.  Then to load this file each time BibDesk starts, do this: In BibDesk preferences, choose the General panel; in the &#8220;Application Launch&#8221; area, choose &#8220;Open File&#8230;&#8221; and have it open the file you just saved.</p>
<p>These directions are for BibDesk 1.3.2.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used the same solution, but used JabRef in addition on Linux machines across our  university. The missing features are easy searching (though recent versions have a &quot;search group&quot; where you can browse through medline for instance and sharing tags as you would for mp3. but watching at http://microformats.org/wiki and the development of sites like hubmed and citeulike makes you believe in a future solution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the same solution, but used JabRef in addition on Linux machines across our  university. The missing features are easy searching (though recent versions have a &#8220;search group&#8221; where you can browse through medline for instance and sharing tags as you would for mp3. but watching at <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki" rel="nofollow">http://microformats.org/wiki</a> and the development of sites like hubmed and citeulike makes you believe in a future solution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too used bibdesk and texshop + subversion (it was 0.13.1 then) to do my dissertation (almost 400 pages worth) and it was a lifesaver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too used bibdesk and texshop + subversion (it was 0.13.1 then) to do my dissertation (almost 400 pages worth) and it was a lifesaver.</p>
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		<title>By: michael-mccracken.net &#187; &#8220;BibDesk, BibTeX and Subversion&#8221; from Terrell Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael-mccracken.net &#187; &#8220;BibDesk, BibTeX and Subversion&#8221; from Terrell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BibDesk, BibTeX and Subversion - An academic&#8217;s necessity: I decided I&#8217;d choose based on 1) open formats, 2) documentation, and an 3) open development model (open source). After looking through RefWorks, vanilla BibTeX files, ProCite, EndNote, Reference Manager (the application) and BibDesk, I chose BibDesk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BibDesk, BibTeX and Subversion &#8211; An academic&rsquo;s necessity: I decided I&rsquo;d choose based on 1) open formats, 2) documentation, and an 3) open development model (open source). After looking through RefWorks, vanilla BibTeX files, ProCite, EndNote, Reference Manager (the application) and BibDesk, I chose BibDesk. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Russell</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-6795</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron, ah, yes.  I hadn&#039;t run into that issue because the paths are the same on my two machines.  I&#039;ll make a note in the instructions above.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron, ah, yes.  I hadn&#8217;t run into that issue because the paths are the same on my two machines.  I&#8217;ll make a note in the instructions above.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used TeXShop and Bibdesk for a couple of years now, and Bibdesk is one of the fastest-developing open source applications that I&#039;ve used.

The only recommendation I&#039;d make is to use the relative-path feature in the auto-file options; otherwise, if you check out your subversion repository anywhere other than your current machine, all of the BibDesk local URLs will be incorrect (and you&#039;ll have to do a query-replace in a text editor to fix them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used TeXShop and Bibdesk for a couple of years now, and Bibdesk is one of the fastest-developing open source applications that I&#8217;ve used.</p>
<p>The only recommendation I&#8217;d make is to use the relative-path feature in the auto-file options; otherwise, if you check out your subversion repository anywhere other than your current machine, all of the BibDesk local URLs will be incorrect (and you&#8217;ll have to do a query-replace in a text editor to fix them).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McKay</title>
		<link>http://weblog.terrellrussell.com/2007/02/bibdesk-bibtex-and-subversion-an-academics-necessity/comment-page-1/#comment-6752</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Terrell, brilliant solution! I started using TeX Shop on my Mac several years ago and then stopped because I didn&#039;t have a good solution for Bibliography management. This is the missing piece that I needed to get started with not only BibTeX but also Subversion for revision control. Thanks for posting this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Terrell, brilliant solution! I started using TeX Shop on my Mac several years ago and then stopped because I didn&#8217;t have a good solution for Bibliography management. This is the missing piece that I needed to get started with not only BibTeX but also Subversion for revision control. Thanks for posting this!</p>
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